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Council Meeting Minutes

West Coast Yakima Center Hotel
Yakima, Washington

July 16-18, 2002

Contents

1. Rod Sando, Columbia Basin Fish and Wildlife Authority
2. Release Mainstem Amendments for Public Comment
3. Wildlife Crediting Subcomittee
4. NMFS: Salmon at River?s End ? The Role of the Estuary in the Decline and Recovery of Columbia River Salmon
5. Independent Economic Analysis Board on Hatchery Review
6. Artificial Production Review and Evaluation Initiation
7. Enhancing Relationship with Columbia Basin Tribes, including proposal by Governor Kitzhaber
8. Council Business
9. Fish and Wildlife Committee Recommendations
10. Steve Wright, Administrator, Bonneville Power Administration
11. Yakama Nation on Bonneville Funding of Training and Education
12. Draft Fiscal Year 2004 Budget and Fiscal Year 2003 Revisions

Decision ? To Meet in Executive Session

Judi Danielson made a motion that the Council meet in executive session on July 18 at the call of the chair to discuss matters protectible under the civil litigation exception.  Tom Karier seconded the motion, which passed unanimously on a roll call vote.

Decision ? Recommend Funding for SNAPP

Judi Danielson moved to add consideration and funding for Safety Net Artificial Production Planning (SNAPP) protocols to the Council's agenda.  John Brogoitti seconded the motion, which passed unanimously on a roll call vote.

1. Comments by Rod Sando, Executive Director of the Columbia Basin Fish and Wildlife Authority

Rod Sando, the new executive director of the Columbia Basin Fish and Wildlife Authority (CBFWA), said it is incumbent on his organization to help Bonneville and the Council be successful in carrying out the region's fish and wildlife program.  He described his experience at the helm of the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, which included a subbasin planning effort.  ?it's not an easy path,? Sando said, adding that to be successful, you have to engage local people in a credible way.  Sando also served for two years as director of the Idaho Department of Fish and Game.

He stressed the importance of leadership in carrying out a successful program.  ?it's incumbent on us as leaders to resolve conflicts,? he said, otherwise, ?it's like playing golf all of the time in the rough.?  Leadership on fish and wildlife in the Northwest is dynamic, with frequent changes that can interrupt program continuity and disrupt planning, Sando said.

As for funding, he pointed out that the Council's role includes constantly allocating dollars.  Such a system can tend to focus on inputs rather than the output products, Sando said.  ?I believe in accountability and strong financial management,? and ?I want to work with you to bring more accountability to this process,? he added.  The region needs to apply benchmarking to projects ? ?some may have outlived their usefulness,? Sando said. 

He suggested diversifying the funding for the region's fish and wildlife activities, adding that he planned to look into foundation and non-profit support.  The region could seek matching funds for some activities from organizations like the Nature Conservancy, Sando recommended.  The situation is not encouraging for going to ratepayers for more funds, so we need to leverage what we have, he stated.  Sando also pointed out that capital costs take away some of the flexibility in budgeting for new activities, and he suggested that capital expenses be funded by selling revenue bonds where possible.

Sando wrapped up with his perspective on the relationship between science and policy.  I?ve been in both the role of the scientist and the policymaker, he told the Council.  When you make policy choices, you rarely have science on target with you ? policy requires a wider spectrum and the need to bring in other points of view, Sando said. 

?Science is the only consistent source of truthful information in our society ? there is nothing more reliable than a peer-reviewed piece of science,? he stated.  ?Don?t blame the scientists if they don?t have the answers for you,? Sando advised.  The real issue is making policy choices, he said.  With policy, you stand up and say, ?there will be effects, but what we?re doing is worth it,? according to Sando.  You can use science, ?but sometimes you have to trust your instincts and fly by the seat of your pants,? he stated.

2. Council Decision to Release Mainstem Amendments for Public Comment

John Shurts, Legal Counsel; Doug Marker, Director, Fish and Wildlife Division; and Bruce Suzumoto, Manager, Special Projects

Cassidy said the Council had intended to discuss its draft mainstem amendments, but noted that Montana and Idaho are planning to make new submissions.  It may not be worthwhile to wordsmith the current draft if changes are going to be proposed, he said.

There is not going to be a joint Idaho/Montana proposal that is in competition with the current draft, nor are we going to present a ?third-party? document,? Kempton said.  But there are issues we are looking at and on which we want to bring new proposals, he acknowledged, adding that the proposed changes could be extensive.

Staffer John Shurts pointed out that major new proposals could ?ripple back through? all parts of the document.  Bartlett and Hines indicated Montana would have substantial suggestions on flow augmentation, spill, and the operation of storage reservoirs.  We want to work with the Council and staff on our proposal, and we will commit to having it done within the next two weeks, Hines said. 

Will other states have new proposals? Judi Danielson asked.  We will need time to look at what's being presented by others, Bloch responded.  I want to get straight on what we?re doing, he added.  We put out a request for amendments last year, and we decided not to construct a program that went head-on with current river operations under the Biological Opinion (BiOp), Bloch said.  It was my understanding we would make changes to operations if they are needed to address fish and wildlife other than those listed under the Endangered Species Act (ESA), and we would focus on critical uncertainties, he went on.  Are Idaho and Montana constructing a new hydro operations proposal? Bloch asked.  If so, that changes the character of things, and we may need to give much more time and thought to how to treat the fish and wildlife managers? proposed amendments, he indicated.

We?ve been arguing that there be enough flexibility in the mainstem operations to accommodate our proposals, Hines said.  Karier said the delay could push the decision on amendments off to September.  Are we pushing the process too much?  Do we need to start over and make new rules for this? he asked.

You called for recommendations and those came in, Shurts stated.  The Act tells you to create a program based on the recommendations, he said.  it's not inappropriate to consider other proposals, but when the day ends, you have to have a way to explain how the program relates back to the recommendations you received, Shurts advised. 

In 2000, we rejected specific projects in lieu of adopting basinwide goals and objectives, Bloch said.  Since we?re going down a different road, I?m wondering if it requires us to go back and look at all of the recommendations and ?start from scratch,? he said.  

We could have a problem if there isn?t a match between the recommendations and our final program, but I think we can go ahead with this course, Karier responded.  Shurts reminded the Council that the law requires deference to recommendations from the agencies and tribes.  He also said the Council must act on recommendations within one year of submittal.  ?We already blew past that,? and the further we get beyond that year, the more precarious the situation gets, Shurts added.

Idaho intends to work within the bookends offered by the initial recommendations, Kempton said.  We are also within the bookends, Hines stated. 

My sense is that we ought not to go through the current draft, Cassidy concluded.  We will use the July 5 draft as the base document into which we will incorporate proposals within two weeks, he said.  Shurts said the Council must also consider the adequate, efficient, economical, and reliable power supply (AEERPS) standards.  You?ll be putting out the AEERPS analysis at the same time you release the amendments, he added. 

3. Wildlife Crediting Subcomittee

Peter Paquet briefed the Council on the ongoing stalemate between Bonneville and fish and wildlife agencies over crediting for wildlife protection and enhancement activities.  At the heart of the dispute is whether Bonneville is obligated to provide 1:1 or 2:1 mitigation for wildlife losses, Council members indicated.  Paquet laid out issues for further discussions between the parties, including: the need to standardize terminology and develop criteria and standards for assigning protection credit; whether to assign wildlife mitigation credit for fish habitat projects; and how to credit wildlife gains resulting from the creation of open-water habitat.

Staff recommends that we continue to work through the fish and wildlife managers and Bonneville to lay out a schedule for resolving issues, Paquet said.  ?But everyone is realistic? ? these issues have been on the table for seven years without a resolution, he added.  There is concern over what will happen to wildlife projects in the meantime, Paquet said.

The new federal farm bill offers opportunities for funding, he continued, pointing out that as much as $500 million could be available for some of the region's wildlife work.  Paquet suggested convening a group from CBFWA and Bonneville to develop a proposal on how to take advantage of this potential source of funds.  We ought to continue to look at the crediting issues and come up with a proposal for how we might use the new farm bill to meet the needs, rather than delaying until all of the issues are resolved, he concluded. 

Bob Austin of Bonneville said the staff proposal makes sense.  The farm bill offers an opportunity to leverage funds, he said, adding that Bonneville wants to keep good projects moving.  Staffer John Ogan recommended the farm bill work be a top priority.  Let?s put people to work on these new issues ? ?they?ve butted heads? for seven years on the others, he said. 

it's clear that until we resolve some of these other issues, we can?t get to ?the 1:1 or 2:1 issue,? Danielson agreed.  We aren?t even talking the same language, so standardizing the terminology is paramount, she added. 

I hope that resolving some of these other issues will open new avenues for resolving the 1:1 or 2:1 question, Bloch commented.  When it comes to this key element, ?we ought to enforce it or remove it from the program,? he stated. 

We?re getting distracted by talking about going after these other funds, a representative of the Oregon Department of fish and wildlife stated.  Bonneville still has an obligation to mitigate ? the real issue is what the Council's program says, she said.  The farm bill funds should not be used to replace Bonneville's obligation,? she added.  Another fish and wildlife manager said Bonneville ?dug its heels in on Day 1? of the crediting discussion.  We have tried to be creative ? if this is another attempt to get Bonneville out of that obligation, ?we won?t be at the table,? he said. 

The language in the program is clear, and we didn?t mean to say that's not the case, Paquet responded.  We aren?t talking about using the farm bill funds as a substitute, he added.  The 1:1 or 2:1 dispute is not going to be resolved soon, yet we?re holding up projects over it, Paquet said. 

I don?t deny that 1:1 and 2:1 is the big issue, but if these other efforts will help us get there, I?m not opposed to going forward with them, Bartlett indicated.  The Wildlife Crediting Subcommittee members agreed that Paquet should proceed on the tasks and priorities he outlined.

4. Presentation by National Marine Fisheries Service:  Salmon at River?s End ? The Role of the Estuary in the Decline and Recovery of Columbia River Salmon

Dr. Mike Schiewe, Division Director, Fish Ecology, Northwest Fisheries Science Center; Dr. Ed. Casillas, Program Manager, Estuary and Ocean Ecology; and Dr. Dan Bottom, Estuary and Ocean Ecology Program

Reporting on research into the role of the Columbia River estuary in the decline and recovery of salmon, Dan Bottom of NOAA Fisheries said the estuary is not just a conduit for migrating fish.  ?it's an important rearing habitat? in which some species of salmon spend considerable time, he explained.  The estuary has been largely ignored, but it is among the most productive areas in the river system, acting ?as a big sump for organic matter,? Bottom said.  Because of the tidal process, the organics tend to stay in the estuary, and some salmon take a lot of advantage of that habitat, he said.      

Bottom outlined how the research he and other scientists have undertaken is looking at the estuary in terms of:  habitat opportunity ? can the salmon actually get there; habitat capacity ? if salmon can get there, what is the quality of the habitat; and population structure ? are there life histories that have adapted to estuary use?  He gave an overview of research on the effects of flow regulation on the estuary and the impact of diking in the lower river.  In terms of habitat capacity, we?ve lost shallow-water habitat and the estuary has shrunk over time by about one-quarter due to diking and other activities, Bottom said. 

With these losses come changes in the food chain, he pointed out.  There has been a decline in food sources that are found in the wetlands, shallows, and flats, and these are what salmon feed on, Bottom explained.  Changes in the ecosystem can bring about increases in the populations of other species, such as American shad, he said. 

A sampling study conducted from 1914 to 1916 has given modern researchers a way to compare the diversity of salmon in the estuary, Bottom continued.  The samples taken today show much more uniformity of size ? we are seeing much less of a range in terms of timing and sizes of fish that are moving through the estuary, he reported.  The timing, composition, and duration of juvenile chinook runs in the estuary are now largely influenced by hatchery releases, Bottom said.  Diversity is a natural hedge against bad ocean conditions, and less variability could mean a dampening of the salmon's ability to survive, he indicated.

As a result of the research, Bottom offered several recommendations:  restore and protect tidal wetlands and floodplains; expand salmon life-history diversity; establish an estuarine monitoring program; monitor/model physical changes in the estuary; assess the change in tidal-fresh habitats; and study the effects of food-web changes.  NOAA Fisheries researchers are moving ahead on the recommendations, he said.  In 2001, we initiated a long-term monitoring study funded by the Corps, and we?ve established intensive research sites in the Cathlamet Bay marshes, where we are trying to develop links between salmon and habitat, according to Bottom.

Are the floodplains populated now?  Could they be reflooded? Hines asked.  Many are populated, and others are developed for agriculture, Bottom responded.  We need to inventory the habitat and zero in on the highest-priority habitat for recovery, weighing the biological benefits against the social costs, he said.

Cassidy pointed out that the Council will consider funding projects in the estuary province in September.  Our approach was going to be to protect the ongoing projects and fund new projects if there is extra money, he said, adding that the estuary province ?is sorely underfunded.?  Bloch said a departure from that approach may be a good idea.  We?d have $500,000 for new projects in the lower Columbia and estuary, according to staffer Karl Weist.  I take it from your discussion that you want us to start with a zero-based budget and build from there, he commented.  it's my preference and Eric agrees, but I don?t know if there's consensus, Cassidy responded.  We need to wrestle with it a month and get more information, he added.

5. Report by Independent Economic Analysis Board on Hatchery Review

Terry Morlan, manager, Economic Analysis; and Dan Juppert, IEAB Chair

Dan Huppert, Chair of the Independent Economic Analysis Board (IEAB), reported on the first phase of the hatchery cost-effectiveness study.  The board compiled cost and performance data from eight hatchery programs throughout the basin, he said, adding that the IEAB found that data on capital costs and hatchery operations was ?pretty available.?

The cost-effectiveness study pegged hatchery costs according to three measures, Huppert explained:  cost per fish released; cost per adult returned; and cost per fish harvested.  He provided the Council with a table that showed the average cost per salmon released varied from 14 cents to $2.60.  The average cost per returning adults ranged from $3 to $3,707, according to the table.  As for the average cost per fish harvested, the cost went from a low of $12 to a high of $68,031.  Huppert cautioned that the $68,031 figure may not be accurate since so few fish were caught from the hatchery in question. 

How do you ?tease out the difference? between a hatchery?s lack of success and the lack of success of the fishermen? Bloch asked.  that's why we have three measures for cost-effectiveness, Huppert responded. 

The IEAB recommends going on to phase two of the study, he said.  One of our objectives was to see if we could come up with enough data to make sense of the costs and do the analysis, Huppert explained.  We now think a more extensive cost-effectiveness analysis is possible, he said.  The IEAB made two recommendations, according to Huppert:  conduct a further analysis of costs that would integrate the hatchery objectives and extend the process into a cost-benefit analysis. 

Karier pointed out that problems with recordkeeping and tracking cost data on fish and wildlife projects, which make such analyses possible, are being addressed.  This is a great start ? it would be good to expand this to all hatcheries funded by Bonneville, he said.  Program implementers could be required to provide better data-keeping for their projects, Hines suggested.  Project sponsors are providing a lot of information, but it isn?t being recorded and tracked, staffer Doug Marker responded.

?I see no excuse for Bonneville not to have these accounting practices in place,? Brogoitti said.  We?re getting further behind in trying to come up with budgets and actual information about project spending, he stated.  ?I?d encourage Bonneville to get with the program,? Brogoitti added.

Since we have the artificial production review and evaluation going on, we need to be sure we aren?t duplicating efforts here, Cassidy said of the proposed phase two study.  If you want the second phase, ?the ball is in our court to come up with a proposal,? Huppert said, adding that the IEAB will submit a proposal later this year.

6. Presentation on Artificial Production Review and Evaluation Initiation

Bruce Suzumoto, Manager, Special Projects

Staffer Bruce Suzumoto outlined the artificial production review and evaluation (APRE) effort.  The objectives of APRE are to implement the policies and recommendations of the original artificial production review, supply data and information to subbasin planners, and assist with completion and coordination of ESA/BiOp activities, including the Hatchery Genetic Management Plans (HGMPs), he explained.  The scope of the effort is to review over 300 resident and anadromous fish artificial production programs and complete HGMPs for all 150 anadromous fish programs, according to Suzumoto. The base budget is $869,000, and the Council voted earlier in the week to recommend that Bonneville fund an additional $462,000 to prepare the draft HGMPs, he said.  

Suzumoto went over the steps staff would take to complete the work, from gathering data and information to finalizing recommendations to send to subbasin planners and to Congress.  He described the three teams ? stakeholder management, project management and scientific ? that have been organized to carry out the activities.  The province-by-province schedule for APRE goes from July 2002 to June 2003, and each province will take about eight months to complete, Suzumoto said. 

APRE will incorporate scientific reviews at various stages, and the final product will be a report on the 300 hatchery programs, outlining the benefits and risks, he said.  Things are moving ahead nicely, Suzumoto concluded.

One of our goals was to identify a purpose for each hatchery, Karier commented.  We intend to go to each hatchery ?and pin people down on the purpose? ? we should have that by the end of the year, Suzumoto responded. 

?I?m bewildered and appalled? that we are just now developing a database on hatcheries, Rob Walton of the Public Power Council commented.  How long has Bonneville been funding hatcheries? he asked.  We should have had this done years ago, Walton stated.

7. Discussion and Public Comment on Enhancing Relationship with Columbia Basin Tribes, including proposal by Governor Kitzhaber

Steve Crow, Executive Director

Referring to Oregon Governor John Kitzhaber?s May 16 letter to the other Northwest governors, Cassidy said there is a proposal before the Council to amend its bylaws regarding consultation with Indian tribes.  The letter also contained a proposal regarding election of officers, but he noted that the Council's agenda included the two as separate items.

Governor Kitzhaber met with representatives of the tribes, and he heard concerns about the tribes? relationship with the Council, Bloch said.  I would venture that the tribes feel the Northwest Power Act is the most important federal legislation for exercising their rights under treaties and Executive Orders on hunting, gathering, and environmental protections, he commented.  Given the turnover that occurs on the Council and the passage of time since the Act was passed, the tribes want a durable way to capture their central role in what the Council does, Bloch explained.

Governor Kitzhaber has asked the Council to consider including in its bylaws a recognition of the Tribes? central role and procedures that would lead to an ongoing relationship, he said.  This proposal is not intended as a criticism of the Council or our work, but as a concern about the turnover and the passage of time since the Act, Bloch reiterated.  The Oregon members propose to put the governor's bylaws proposal into a motion and have it discussed and voted on, he stated.

Paul Lumley of the Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission (CRITFC) led a panel of tribal representatives.  He said the tribes have a vested interest in seeing a strong Council and that newspaper articles indicating Oregon could pull out of the Council raise concerns.  CRITFC supports Governor Kitzhaber?s proposed changes to the Council bylaws, Lumley said.  

We?d like to see increased deference to the tribes, he stated.  With respect to our history with the Council, the relationship has not always been good, but it's better now than in the past, Lumley said.  The bylaws change would be a positive move, he added.  The tribes are upset over the lack of balance between power and fish, Lumley told the Council.  He outlined several instances in which the tribes disagreed with the way fish and wildlife project funding was handled.  ?We weren?t treated with the respect we deserve,? Lumley stated.  He urged the Council to include in its bylaws Kitzhaber?s proposed language regarding respect and courtesy to the tribes.

When new Council members come on board, they need to be educated, Lumley continued, and he added that the tribes want more access to information on Council business before they arrive at meetings.  it's difficult to get up to speed on complex issues quickly, he added.  Lumley said the tribes also feel the Independent Scientific Review Panel (ISRP) is prone to moving off its charter.  You need to remind them of their charge, he suggested. 

Lynn Descharme said the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes support the proposed bylaws language that affords ?a high degree of deference? to the tribes? interpretations of the Act?s fish and wildlife provisions and their recommendations for program measures.  We don?t want our support to reflect negatively on the Montana members ? they?ve been our allies, she added.  I would encourage the Council to engage with Bonneville on getting the funding going for approved projects, Descharme said.  We?ve been deadlocked for nine months, and we would appreciate your support, she stated.

Terry Courtney of the Confederated Tribes of the Warm Springs thanked Bloch and Brogoitti for bringing up the issues.  He asked the Council to indicate more specifically when there will be opportunity at its meetings for testimony on issues.  Selective fishing doesn?t get us to recovery, Courtney stated.  If the tribes can?t get input on these issues, ?it leaves a bad taste in our mouth,? he said.  The Council must make a better effort to understand the tribes, Courtney concluded.

Keith Wolf of the Colville Tribe said when the tribes get involved locally on subbasin planning and ask for commitments of time and effort, ?we need to ensure? that Bonneville and the Council will continue to provide a high level of support.  It is also very important to us that we have long-term stable funding for our projects, he added.  Wolf said the tribes want continuity when there are staff and leadership changes.  We are an important partner, and we want to have discussions when there are anticipated changes in staff, he indicated. 

Guy Dodson of the Shoshone-Paiute Tribes said term length for the Council chair is an internal matter, as the letters from the other governors indicated.  As for adequate tribal consultation, the equity and fairness is not there for the blocked areas, he said.  Each of the tribes at the table has a vast and varied history, as well as similarities, and all of us should be treated fairly, Dodson stated.

Ken Hall of the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla talked about ?pre-treaty life.?  Our negotiators wanted to retain our hunting and gathering rights and our resources, he said.  We invite you to come to each tribe and learn about what each of us thinks the Northwest Power Act means, Hall stated.  We want to see the fish back and see tribal members exercising their rights to hunt and fish on a daily basis, he said.  Hall urged the Council to learn what it means to ?live in common? ? letting the water flow the way it is supposed to and letting the animals go where they are supposed to go. 

Cassidy pointed out that when new members come on to the Council, they receive a thorough briefing on tribal issues.  We can do better, he added. 

To resolve the issues, we should encourage a dialogue between the governors and the tribal chairs, Lumley said.  Rotating the chairmanship among the states is good business ? there are benefits to being the chair that should be shared, he added. 

Any perception of a lack of respect or courtesy is troubling, Karier said.  Your comments about getting out information on the agenda and on the ISRP are constructive, he added.  Whether we adopt the bylaws changes or not, we take your comments seriously, Karier said.  We are listening to you ? the fact that you?re here tells us there is room for improvement in our relationship, Bartlett stated.  The bylaws changes are a different question, he noted.

These issues are very important to our governor, Brogoitti said.  I hope the Council can come up with something to make this work, he added. 

What strikes me is the commonality between what the tribes want and what we want, Hines said.  We both want to bring back the fish and wildlife, he said.  Regarding the relationship, more intimate discussions ?away from the table? are a good idea, Hines stated.

The concerns you expressed are fundamental issues the Council will address, Kempton stated.  Cooperation is very important for subbasin planning, he added.

I?d like to express support for the ideas in the bylaws proposals and the tribal comments, Walton said.  But I support the three governors? position ? the bylaws are not the best vehicle for these proposals, and this could encourage others to offer bylaws changes, he commented.  If the Council initiates a broader effort to educate members, include the public, Walton urged.  Others need to learn about these issues, too, he said.

Danielson said Idaho's governor was asked to have a government-to-government consultation with the tribes on fish and wildlife issues.  We signed memoranda of understanding with the tribes on subbasin planning, and Governor Kempthorne made a proclamation that acknowledges the sovereignty of the tribes and commits to working with them on a government-to-government level, she said.  Danielson showed a videotape of a ceremony in which Kempthorne delivered the proclamation to several tribal leaders.

My recommendation is that we weigh what we?ve heard and explore other ways to get at this, Cassidy said, noting that a bylaws change may not accomplish what is needed.

The tribes have said we?re central to their lives, and we have to find a way to capture the current positive state of our relationship, Bloch said.  I believe we already do some of what is in this proposal ? I say let?s weigh these comments for a month and then see where we should go, Cassidy responded.

I believe the Act is durable and specific about our relationship to the tribes, Bartlett said, and page 53 of our fish and wildlife program talks about the role of the tribes.  The tribes have a special place in what we do ? it is recognized in our program, he commented. 

Decision ? Consideration of governor's Amendment to Chapter 14 of Bylaws and Postponing until August Meeting

We need to get a motion on the floor so we can have an open discussion, Brogoitti suggested.  Cassidy reiterated his suggestion that the Council weigh the input and then consider a motion in August to vote the bylaws amendment up or down.  Brogoitti offered a ?unanimous consent request? to delay consideration to Helena.  Karier objected, and the request failed.  Brogoitti made a motion to consider Governor Kitzhaber?s proposed amendment to Chapter 14 of the bylaws, and Bloch seconded.  Brogoitti then made a motion to table consideration of it until the Council meets in August.  Karier seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously.

8. Council Business

Approval of Minutes

Decision ? Approval of June Minutes

Danielson made a motion that the Council approve the minutes of the June 11-12, 2002 Council meeting for the signature of the vice chair.  Brogoitti seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously.

Approval of Subbasin Planning Contracts

Decisions ? Authorization to Negotiate A Contract with Oregon and Washington Subbasin Planning Coordination Groups

Staffers Brian Allee and Lynn Palensky gave an update on subbasin planning activities.  Danielson made a motion that the Council authorize the Executive Director to negotiate a contract in an amount not to exceed $175,000, with the contractor the Oregon Subbasin Planning Coordination Group selected at a July 12, 2002 meeting to provide statewide coordination and project management for subbasin planning in the state of Oregon, as outlined in the statement of work presented by the staff.  Bloch seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously.

Danielson made a motion that the Council authorize the Executive Director to negotiate a one-year contract in an amount not to exceed $152,132 with the contractor the Washington Subbasin Planning Coordination Group will select, to provide statewide coordination and project management for subbasin planning in the state of Washington, as outlined by the staff.  Karier seconded the motion and reported that Anthony Grover had accepted the coordinator position.  The motion passed on a unanimous vote.

The Council postponed action on a contract with Mobrand Biometrics, Inc., amid questions about what form of scientific assessment would be acceptable if a project sponsor chooses not to use the Ecosystem Diagnostic and Treatment (EDT) model Mobrand has developed.  EDT is a useful tool, but it is not mandatory, Allee explained.  Danielson said there is concern about how projects will be treated by the ISRP and Bonneville if they are not based on the EDT model.  If a subbasin doesn?t use EDT, other alternatives have to be acceptable, Bartlett said.  Cassidy suggested the Mobrand contract be moved to later in the agenda, and he subsequently announced it would be handled in a conference call.

Decision ? Authorization to Negotiate a Contract with Drew Parkin

Danielson made a motion that the council authorize the Executive Director to negotiate a contract with Drew Parkin in an amount not to exceed $97,440 to perform the work related to technical support for subbasin planning set out in the statement of work presented by the staff.  Bloch seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously.

Status on Mainstem System-wide Project Selection

This agenda item was not discussed.

Discussion and Public Comment on Possible Bylaw revisions for Election of Chair

Bloch made a motion that the Council approve a five-point amendment to Chapter 4 of its bylaws.  The motion, a longer version of the proposal Governor Kitzhaber made in his May 16 letter to the other governors, called for the office of chair to ?rotate among the states as follows: Idaho, Oregon, Montana, and Washington? and for the vice chair to be chosen from the state next in rotation.  The motion offered an exception to the rule if both members from the state in line for leadership decline to stand for chair, and it proposed to change the term of office for chair and vice chair to two years.  Brogoitti seconded the motion.

Brogoitti then moved to table the amendment until the Council's August meeting.  Bloch seconded the motion, but it failed on a five-to-three vote, with Bartlett, Bloch, and Brogoitti voting aye, and Danielson, Cassidy, Karier, Kempton, and Hines voting no. 

Speaking in favor of his motion, Bloch said, ?Oregon has tried to be supportive of its sister states when they have raised issues relating to the interface of the Council's work and mission and a state's unique interests.?  He pointed to examples, including Oregon's cooperation with Washington's needs in subbasin planning, Idaho's needs in water acquisitions, and Montana's desire for integrated rule curves.  The issue of how the Council selects its chair, and doing so in a way that all four states share equally in the leadership, is very important to Oregon's Council members, Governor Kitzhaber, and the state, Bloch said. 

Rotation of the chair is ?the only logical and durable way? to assure equal leadership among the states, he continued.  ?It is improper for the four sovereign states that comprise the Council not to share equally in something as fundamental and visible as the Council's leadership,? Bloch said.  The Council members take their place after they are appointed by the governor and confirmed by the state senate, and in Oregon, the Council members serve as part of the governor's cabinet, he explained.  If an individual passes that gauntlet successfully, ?that ought to be good enough for all of us here,? according to Bloch.  He contended that the current approach is undemocratic because ?it undoes the work and the rightful expectation of our states? highest elected representatives.?

Rotation assures that the diversity of issues among the states will be mirrored through the leadership, and it is both a symbolic and practical issue, Bloch said, adding that rotating the chair among the states assures the Council's ability to maintain broad support.  He pointed out that some newspaper editorial boards had given support to the approach of rotating the chair, and he provided examples of other multi-state organizations that take this route to selecting a leader.  In summary, Bloch said, ?it all comes down to whether this Council is willing to set up a system for electing the chair that doesn?t impose our judgment over the judgments of our governors and our senates? in determining that all Council members are qualified to perform the duties of the chair.

I?m troubled by the context in which we are making this decision, Karier stated.  There is ?a thinly veiled message? that if we don?t pass this, Oregon may not continue to participate on the Council, he said.  But I won?t let this influence my decision, Karier said, adding that he would vote on the merits of the proposal.  ?The current election of officers is democratic; election by bylaws is not democratic,? he concluded.

Brogoitti said Governor Kitzhaber had not said he would pull Oregon's members from the Council if the proposal did not pass.  ?It sits as a possibility,? but the governor has made no decision, Bloch stated. 

There clearly has been a rotation of the chair in the past, Bartlett stated.  It isn?t fixed and set, but it shouldn?t be a matter of ?it's my turn, and I insist on being elected,? he said.  We should aim for rotation ? it should be a principle we strive for ? and the other governors indicated that in their responses to Governor Kitzhaber, Bartlett said.  We have rotation now in a way that makes sense for us, he stated.  ?The way we do it now is just fine ? I won?t support the motion,? Bartlett said.  Our governor has said the election of officers should be an internal affair, Hines pointed out.  Having a chair that is not supported by the majority does not make for a strong Council, he said.

The governors have responded, Kempton said.  I believe in the most sincere way and with respect to the tribes, that the strongest leader is the most important issue here, he indicated.  For this circumstance, I think we have that ? our governor says to strive for rotation, and that is what we will do, Kempton stated.

?Your intellect is unequaled on the Council,? Cassidy said to Bloch, but ?you cast aspersions on Brogoitti?s position as chairman of the fish and wildlife committee and on your own position as a member of the executive committee.?  Cassidy said he saw no evidence that Oregon has suffered for lack of chairmanships, and he dismissed the contention that showed up in some newspaper articles that Governor Kitzhaber?s speech on dam breaching or Oregon's position on the issue had anything to do with the chairmanship election.  Last January, the Council chose its chair in a democratic process, Cassidy said, and he added that Bloch was a credit to the Council in any position.

Cassidy said he could find no record of Oregon's governor making a request for rotating chairs on any other commission, nor could he find a record of Washington's governor having done so.  He concluded by saying that the Council needs Oregon's participation.

I agree that we need a strong Council, Bloch responded, and we believe sincerely that this is the way to achieve that.  The current bylaws trouble me, Brogoitti said.  What happened in January was unfortunate; the old bylaws said there could only be two consecutive terms, he pointed out.  We need to go back to that, Brogoitti urged.

In January, people wanted to suspend the rules for the election, but I declined to serve under those circumstances, and the bylaws were changed, Cassidy said.  I don?t object to a rotation, but I do to a forced rotation, he added.

Brogoitti called for the question, and the motion to amend the bylaws failed on a six-to- two vote.  Bloch and Brogoitti voted in favor; Danielson, Cassidy, Bartlett, Karier, Kempton, and Hines voted no. 

9. Council Decision on Fish and Wildlife Committee Recommendations

Lower Snake Compensation Plan Review

Staffer Mark Fritsch provided background on the Independent Scientific Review panel's (ISRP) evaluation of the Lower Snake River Compensation Plan (LSRCP).  This is ?a huge and complex group of projects,? and the ISRP provided favorable comments, he said.  There were some issues the ISRP felt Bonneville should address during the contracting process, Fritsch added. 

The LSRCP projects were once funded under a purely reimbursable arrangement, but the costs are now covered through a direct-funding agreement between Bonneville and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), according to staffer John Ogan.  We have sought to integrate the LSRCP with other projects in our fish and wildlife program, he said, adding that the USFWS has agreed to participate in subbasin planning and in the artificial production review and evaluation. 

Decision ? Accept ISRP Review & Recommend Bonneville Address Issued Raised by the ISRP

Danielson made a motion that the Council do the following:  accept the ISRP review of the LSRCP; recommend Bonneville and USFWS address through the artificial production review and evaluation and subbasin planning the issues raised by the ISRP; and direct the staff to summarize the ISRP report and include the summary in a report to Congress that was requested in the 1999 Energy and Water Development Appropriations Bill for ?reimbursable projects.?  Brogoitti seconded the motion, which passed on a unanimous vote.

Additional Funding for Hatchery and Genetic Management Plans

Staffer Bruce Suzumoto said staff will produce 150 draft Hatchery Genetic Management Plans (HGMPs) for NOAA Fisheries.  Brogoitti said he was concerned about the request for $462,000 to accomplish the project because it won?t cover finalizing the HGMPs.    We have a ?blank hole? for funds to finish the HGMPs that should be filled up front, he pointed out.  Suzumoto said staff would capture information from 60 or 70 HGMPs that are already in the works by other agencies.  Cassidy recommended the Council advise Bonneville to scrutinize requests for funds to prepare HGMPs so there is no duplication of effort. 

A spreadsheet on what we?ve already spent on HGMPs is ?conspicuously absent? from this request, Karier pointed out.  I?m uneasy that we are spending money on a project for which we don?t track the funding, he said.

Decision ? Recommend Reallocation of Funds

Danielson made a motion that the Council recommend Bonneville reallocate $462,000 from the FY 2002 anadromous program?s unallocated placeholder for Project 2002-47, Artificial Production Review and Evaluation, as presented by the staff, suggested by NOAA Fisheries and Bonneville, and recommended by the fish and wildlife committee.  Brogoitti seconded the motion, which passed on a unanimous vote.   

Recommendation on Kalispel Hatchery

Fritsch explained that the Kalispel tribal hatchery had not been able to reach its production goals, and the tribe is requesting funds to build rearing ponds.  The ISRP gave ?a harsh review? to the tribe?s ?stocking strategy? and its monitoring and evaluation (M&E) tracking program, he said.  If we approve this, we would be acting contrary to the ISRP recommendation, Bloch pointed out.  The Kalispel are committed to addressing the M&E concerns, staffer Doug Marker said.  But the fish and wildlife committee is aware the program needs this help to continue ? using the available sloughs is not working, he added.

When do they have to come forward with a new M&E program? Bloch asked.  We haven?t stipulated the timing, but I?m confident they will get us something, Fritsch responded.  The Council determined that this resident fish bass project was appropriate, Karier said.  We should adopt the recommendation and ask the ISRP to be more specific about what they want in the way of M&E, he said.

Decision ? Recommend Funding by Bonneville for Construction of Rearing Ponds

Danielson made a motion that the Council recommend Bonneville fund the construction of rearing ponds under Project 1995-001-00, Kalispel Tribe Resident Fish, in an amount not to exceed $180,000, as recommended by the fish and wildlife committee and subject to the conditions noted by staff, including:  this is a one-time allocation of money with no further O&M; and the project sponsor will address the ISRP concerns prior to the next funding cycle.  Karier seconded the motion, which passed on a unanimous vote. 

Yakima Access Habitat Project

Decision ? Recommend Funding

Danielson made a motion, seconded by Brogoitti, that the Council recommend Bonneville fund in an amount not to exceed $750,000 each year for FY 2003 and 2004, the Kittitas County Water Purveyors? strategic plan as presented by the staff and recommended by the fish and wildlife committee.  This is a very good project opportunity, and the agricultural interests are very involved, Cassidy commented.  The motion passed unanimously

Safety Net Artificial Production Planning (SNAPP)

Marker explained the revised Safety Net Artificial Production Planning (SNAPP) protocols, which NOAA Fisheries wants to move forward.  These are strategies to prevent extinction of species, he said.  The ISRP has considerable concern about SNAPP and briefed us on its concerns in Bend, Marker said.  The project sponsors don?t believe the ISRP?s primary concerns about the risk analysis apply just yet, he continued, and they would like to go forward.  They have also reduced their costs, Marker added.  The sponsors are committed to looking at all factors affecting potential extinction, he explained.  They have indicated they will not jump directly to an artificial production program if there are other things, such as habitat measures, that could be effective, Marker pointed out.  Staff supports the project going forward and so does the fish and wildlife committee, he stated.

Decision ? Recommend Funding by Bonneville for SNAPP

Danielson made a motion to recommend that Bonneville fund SNAPP at the level of $411,000 in 2002 and $215,000 in 2003 on the condition that the timing of implementation allow for scientific review and coordination with the Council's artificial production review and evaluation.  The funding recommendation also takes note of the sponsors? July 10, 2002 responses to six issues previously raised by the ISRP and the Council, she added.  Brogoitti seconded the motion, which passed unanimously.

10. Remarks by Steve Wright, Administrator, Bonneville Power Administration

Bonneville Administrator Steve Wright laid out the details on what he called Bonneville's ?most severe financial situation in 25 years ? maybe in our history.?  The agency has seen its financial reserves plummet from $800 million at the end of fiscal year (FY) 2000 to an expected $125 million at the end of FY 2002, he reported.  Wholesale power rates are lower than expected, which means Bonneville is taking in less revenue than forecast, according to Wright.  ?My concern is growing by the day,? he said, adding ?the lower the markets go, the worse our problem becomes.?  While $125 million may sound like a lot of money, ?it isn?t much in our world,? and the downturn in revenue poses a significant concern for our ability to pay creditors, Wright pointed out.

He explained the assumptions that went into the 2000 rate case, including Bonneville's expectations that it would serve 9,500 megawatts (MW) of load (1,500 MW over the federal resource base); increase fish and wildlife (fish and wildlife) spending by $100 million annually; and do so without raising rates.  We thought we could achieve this through increased efficiencies and higher than average surplus power revenues, Wright continued.  We expected costs at the Columbia Generating Station (formerly WNP-2) to continue to go down, along with Corps of Engineers and Bureau of Reclamation costs, he said.  And we thought we would cut Power Business Line (PBL) staff in half, Wright added.

?The world hasn?t played out that way,? he stated.  We ended up with 11,000 MW of load to serve, and by the time we set rates and signed contracts, ?the markets had gone sky high,? Wright said.  To address the changed conditions, Bonneville worked with customers to eliminate the fixed rate and establish rate adjustment clauses that allow the agency to change rates every six months, depending on conditions, he explained.

Bonneville raised rates 46 percent in October 2001 by triggering the ?load-based? adjustment clause, but this was to cover the cost of serving the additional load and didn?t address the rest of our financial situation, Wright went on.  We expected to be a net seller in the market this year, but now wholesale prices are way below what we anticipated, he said.  ?We didn?t expect prices to come down as fast or as much as they have,? Wright acknowledged.  The cost of serving the 3,000 MW of load above our resource base has been declining through time, and we will be able to reduce the load-based adjustment October 1, he said.  But the rest of our business is not going well, according to Wright.

Bonneville lost over $200 million in 2001 and will lose over $250 million this year, Wright said.  People ask why we lose money when markets are high, as they were in 2001, and also when markets are low, as they are now, he continued.  When the markets were high, we had a drought and no inventory to sell, so we lost money, Wright explained.  In 2002, we have pretty close to average water, but the price forecast for power is lower than expected, and ?that combination is putting us in difficulty,? Wright stated. 

It became clear to us in December that we would end 2002 in dire straits, he continued.  We also started looking at the 2003 to 2006 period, and we expect revenues will be lower than we thought a year ago, Wright said.  In addition, our current expense forecast is higher than expected, he added.  Among other things, Wright explained that deferred maintenance at Corps and Bureau hydro projects has led to declines in generating capability.  To bring that capability back, there must be increases in operation and maintenance (O&M) budgets over the next several years, he indicated.

If you put all of the pieces together, the forecast for Bonneville's financial results over the 2002 to 2006 period shows net revenue of $860 million across the period, Wright stated.  there's about a 20 percent chance ?we would not lose money? without further cost cuts or rate adjustments, he said.

There are alternatives to the money-losing scenario, Wright stated.  Bonneville has been talking to people in the region about possible scenarios and has developed four options for 2002 to 2006 based on what it has heard, he said. 

Under Option One, we would raise rates without additional cost-cutting, Wright explained.  It would take a 5 percent to 10 percent increase annually to assure the agency wouldn?t lose money, he indicated. 

Option Two lays out a very aggressive ? ?I?d call it Draconian? ? scenario of cost-cutting, Wright continued.  Under this option, Bonneville would make any cuts ?that wouldn?t violate the statutes,? including eliminating the incentive payments for those who own and operate the federal generating resources; reducing renewables and conservation initiatives; achieving more efficient fish and wildlife efforts; and revamping Bonneville's contracts with Enron, he explained.

Option Three would move more risk to the U.S. Treasury, Wright said.  Under this scenario, there's ?a reasonably high probability? we wouldn?t make the Treasury payment every year, he pointed out. 

Option Four pushes the financial problem out into the future, Wright continued.  We?d be borrowing to cover operating expenses and pushing those costs off to the future, he explained.

I?m not a fan of options three and four, Wright acknowledged, adding that those options ?aren?t consistent with our values? of being good long-term stewards of the federal power resources.  But, he said, there is an argument that given the unique circumstances we face and the economic conditions in the region, the situation calls for a unique solution.

Wright asked the Council to step back and look at its fish and wildlife program.  Our current costs for fish exceed $500 million a year, compared to $150 million in the early 1990s, he said.  Wright urged the Council to consider whether the region is getting the most cost-effective fish and wildlife program.  We?re doing this kind of evaluation in all other parts of our operation, and we ask that you join in a partnership to look at this program, he said.  I provided you a budget estimate on fish and wildlife, and I?m not pulling back from it, Wright said.  But he said he is looking at a $50 million reduction in Bonneville's fish and wildlife spending.  ?it's an arbitrary number,? Wright acknowledged, but it reflects the challenge of getting costs to a point they can be supported with flat rates.

I?ve met with ratepayers around the region, and I?ve heard some things that are encouraging, Wright said.  We?ve asked people how they feel about the values we?ve been operating under and laid out for them the choices we face, he noted.  I?d urge you to join with us and come to our meetings across the region, Wright said.  it's powerful to hear about the impacts of rate increases and also about reductions in spending, he said.  ?We are stewards, not owners of the asset,? and we need to reflect the values of the region as we come to terms with our financial situation, Wright concluded.

Council chairman Larry Cassidy thanked Wright for his bluntly delivered message.  This Council is willing to participate with you ? ?we can?t stand out in the cold? on this, he said.  The Council has undertaken a zero-based budget process for 2004-2005, which may help you some, but the most serious area for us is fish and wildlife funding, Cassidy said, adding that the situation calls for careful management so the region continues to meet its trust and treaty responsibilities to tribes. 

Treasury default is potentially more devastating than the other alternatives, according to Tom Karier.  It threatens the long-term benefits of the system ? ?we don?t want to lose the whole thing,? he added.  Karier asked if Bonneville is refinancing its non-federal debt.  We are currently refinancing the Washington Public Power Supply System (WPPSS) debt, Wright responded.  We can produce interest savings that way, and we have taken the debt and pushed it out in time because we have a problem with access to capital, he said.  With the savings, Bonneville is paying more of its federal debt, Wright stated. 

Much of what we can do on the fish and wildlife side depends on the quality of the data we have, Eric Bloch said.  He urged Wright not to cut Bonneville's investments in software and other tools that would increase the agency's capability to track information on fish and wildlife spending.  Wright acknowledged that some infrastructure investments are necessary.  Bloch encouraged Bonneville to reach beyond the ratepayers in its discussions and talk to fish and wildlife managers.  Have direct conversations with them, he urged.

John Hines wondered whether the region understands Bonneville's financial situation clearly.  If we can further the education process, I am willing to help, he offered.  Hines said that for fish and wildlife spending, the emphasis should be put on outcomes and not on dollars spent.  If we can continue to increase productivity at less cost, then we should, he added.  Let?s look at what is working and what's not to make the tough decisions, Hines recommended.

?You no doubt heard an earful? from irrigated agriculture on the possibility of another rate increase, John Brogoitti said, referring to Wright?s recent meeting in Umatilla, Oregon.  I?ve been hearing that the irrigators think it is Bonneville's preferred alternative to raise rates, he said.  That would have a huge impact, and I hope you will be very careful about doing that, Brogoitti cautioned.  Farmers can?t raise their prices if costs go up, he added.  The Umatilla meeting was powerful in terms of educating us about how rate increases affect people in the real world, Wright replied. 

In the future, if you decide to do some cost-cutting, tell us and be up front, Ed Bartlett urged.  it's extremely important for us to know why you are making cuts, he said, adding that Bonneville has been up front in the past and he wants that to continue. 

Jim Kempton asked if Wright had talked to state and federal managers and the tribes about another year of emergency operations to get more water out of the system for power generation.  Our emergency last year was based on reliability concerns, Wright responded.  There were public health and safety issues involved if we hadn?t had enough money to buy power, he said.  I don?t see that situation this year, Wright stated. 

What we?re trying to do here is predict the future, and that is hard to do, Bloch observed.  The predictors at Bonneville didn?t go into the rate case wanting to lose $865 million, he commented.  What has changed and how can you provide assurances the situation won?t turn around again? Bloch asked.  The fundamental difference between May 2000 and now is that we thought we?d have $800 million in the bank, Wright responded.  ?We lost a ton of money in 2001 and 2002,? he acknowledged.  Our graph shows there is a 20 percent chance we?ll have no problem ? it's possible, Wright said.  But I think it is too great a risk to do nothing, he indicated.  If all of this were based on future market prices, I wouldn?t be here, Wright continued.  But it's a combination of factors ? higher costs, no reduction in expenses, and lower market prices, he explained. 

We have gone from one extreme to the other, Karier observed.  Much of this seems to be related to the volatility of a deregulated market, he stated, adding that he appreciates Bonneville's willingness to look at various proposals with neutrality and an open mind.

We take your challenge to get involved here, Cassidy told Wright.  If we gave you the whole fish and wildlife budget, it wouldn?t solve your problem, he added. 

Wright said there would be a rate decision in October, and he would make a decision on the future rate-increase/cost-cutting options in November/December.  The most important thing to realize is we have a four-year problem, he wrapped up.

Public Comment

Chuck Dawsey, manager of the Benton Rural Electric Association (REA), told the Council that as a full requirements customer of Bonneville, his utility saw a 66 percent increase in its power bill last October.  We?ve met several times with Steve Wright, and our board has written to Bonneville about what this increase is doing to our customers, he reported.  I?m concerned that the region may not be getting the message about what hardship this rate hike is causing, Dawsey indicated.

The REA has started a program of educating people to what is happening and encouraging its 13,000 customers to write directly to Bonneville and other leaders in the region about the impacts of the rate increase, he continued.  We?ve had over 1,700 customers respond with letters, Dawsey reported.  Bonneville has pushed consumers to the edge of their ability to pay for electricity, he stated.  The talk of more increases in rates ?is absurd,? according to Dawsey.  ?We?ve touched the bottom of the customers? pocket,? he added. 

Dawsey presented the Council with copies of the ratepayer letters.  ?I?d urge you to read them, especially the handwritten ones,? he said.  Few of our members have time to attend these public meetings, and if you want their point of view, I encourage you to read these letters, Dawsey concluded.

11. Presentation by Yakama Nation on Bonneville Funding of Training and Education

Lynn Hatcher, Virgil Lewis and Charlie Storm, Yakama Indian Nation

Dr. David Fast described the Yakama Indian Nation's training and education program for fish culturists, which originated with a contract between Bonneville and the tribe in 1988.  Through the Bonneville-funded program, a number of young people from the Yakama Nation have entered community college and university programs and gone on to earn their Bachelor of Science degrees in fish culture, he said.  Three graduates of the program showed slides and reported on their experiences and current positions as technicians and managers at various Yakama tribal hatchery facilities.  This is a beneficial program with concrete results, one of the presenters stated.  It was an honor to be a student in the training and education program, said another former student, who is now the assistant research manager at the Cle Elum Hatchery.  it's clear to me this is one of the best expenditures and most rewarding of all of our fish and wildlife activities, Cassidy stated.

12. Public Comment on Council Draft Fiscal Year 2004 Budget and Fiscal Year 2003 Revisions (Council document 2002-8)

No members of the public appeared to comment.

The Council meeting adjourned at 11:55 a.m. on Thursday, July 18.

Approved August 14, 2002

s/s Judi Danielson
Vice-Chairman

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